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Trump's latest Epstein files defense contains the 'biggest tell': MSNBC host

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On Sunday morning, MSNBC host Jonathan Capehart singled out a new line of defense Donald Trump attempted on Saturday to put distance between himself and accused pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and claimed it just created new questions.

On MSNBC's "The Weekend," the panel took up the evolving story over whether the Epstein files contain damning evidence or were a big nothing that had been hyped up by Trump and his allies before the election in his efforts to return to the Oval Office.

At a time when the Department of Justice is spiraling into a war between Attorney General Pam Bondi and top FBI officials over Epstein file transparency, the president stepped in it on Saturday with a Truth Social post to put out the fire which only made things worse.

At issue, Capehart explained, was the president spinning a fresh conspiracy theory that could inadvertently open up a new line of inquiry.

The MSNBC host noted Trump complained, "For years, it’s Epstein, over and over again. Why are we giving publicity to Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden Administration, who conned the World with the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, 51 'Intelligence' Agents, 'THE LAPTOP FROM HELL,' and more? They created the Epstein Files, just like they created the FAKE Hillary Clinton/Christopher Steele Dossier that they used on me, and now my so-called “'riends' are playing right into their hands. Why didn’t these Radical Left Lunatics release the Epstein Files? If there was ANYTHING in there that could have hurt the MAGA Movement, why didn’t they use it?"

That led Capehart to tell the panel, "The shifting stances: February 21st, Bondi says the client list is on her desk. July 7th, the DOJ memo says there ain't no client list, but check out July 12th, which was yesterday. Trump: there are Epstein files, but they were written by Obama, Clinton and Biden."

"This to me is the biggest tell," he pointed out. "Why is Trump injecting himself in this and hurling –– and going to his tried and true distraction method, which is saying it's Obama's fault. It's Biden's fault. It's Clinton's fault. It's everyone else's fault but mine. Which makes me think, and I would love to hear from [Ex-DOJ official] Anthony [Coley], because you've got that look on your face. Why shouldn't I think, and why shouldn't the American people think that there is a there there, given what the president just said?"

"So listen, the fact that he's throwing out these names of Clinton and Obama, it is the classic tale," Coley replied. "The fact of the matter is that when you look at the investigation of this, it was done, comprehensive investigation, by the nonpartisan DOJ Inspector General, Michael Horowitz."

"Now, what's so interesting about Michael Horowitz?" he elaborated. "And he, you know, this is that –– do you remember maybe four months ago, there was this mass firing of inspectors general across the country? Yeah, Donald Trump kept Michael Horowitz as the inspector general of the Justice Department. And so if he was so upset about the investigation that Michael Horowitz did, why didn't he fire Michael Horowitz?"

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